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Brian Exelbierd's avatar

Having not read the literature (or all of the fiction) you referenced I’d offer that I believe it likely Jefferson studied the Nassau pirates deliberately. I would not say that he was influenced by them, but if you’re trying to charter a new democracy you’d be a fool not see look at the existing scholarship and experiments.

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Desert Solitaire's avatar

The freed slaves on the planet variously named Verdant Vista or Congo or Torch were not pirates. The actual pirates in the Honorverse, mostly operating in the Silesian Confederacy, are extremely nasty and not the sorts of people you'd think of as building a decent democratic nation.

Beyond that, nation-building themes come up pretty often in science fiction but I'm not sure how specific your criteria are. Examples that come to mind range from classic Heinlein, both in *The Moon is a Harsh Mistress* and *Tunnel in the Sky*, to Stirling's Nantucket series starting with *Island in the Sea of Time*, all of which emphasize conservative notions of civic duty. More libertarian perspectives come up in Vernor Vinge's work, both in the series starting with *The Peace War* and *The Ungoverned*, and in the Zones of Thought universe, particularly in *A Deepness in the Sky*. It is often the case both in these books and in real life that the people trying to form a new society were seen as outlaws by the more established nations around them. As for the more specific case of nation-building among people thought of as pirates, the only example that immediately comes to mind that may fit is the Outer Planets Alliance in *The Expanse* (which had just the sorts of instability problems that you mention).

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